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03/15/2021 06:30 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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06:54:45 PM HB100
07:50:08 PM HB132
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        HB 132-SCHOOL APPRENTICESHIP PROGS; TAX CREDITS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
7:50:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would  be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  132  "An  Act relating  to  technical                                                               
education and apprenticeships;  relating to concurrent vocational                                                               
education,  training, and  on-the-job  trade experience  programs                                                               
for students  enrolled in public  secondary schools;  relating to                                                               
child labor; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  noted that  HB  132  is  a House  Labor  and                                                               
Commerce  Standing Committee  bill on  apprenticeship.   She said                                                               
Co-Chair Fields would be introducing the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
7:50:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS,  on behalf  of  the  House Labor  and  Commerce                                                               
Standing  Committee,  sponsor,  introduced  HB  132,  the  Alaska                                                               
Apprenticeship Expansion Act.  He  stated that the bill's origins                                                               
are  rooted in  the long-standing  success of  apprenticeships in                                                               
Alaska, the  experiences he had  while working in  the Department                                                               
of Labor  & Workforce  Development on  expanding apprenticeships,                                                               
and  on conversations  with Representative  McCarty prior  to the                                                               
representative's  election.    He said  Representative  McCarty's                                                               
election was  a good opportunity to  look at ideas that  could be                                                               
used  to promote  apprenticeship,  he noted.    Last session  the                                                               
legislature  came together  around apprenticeships  through House                                                               
Bill  308, which  strengthened apprenticeships  in the  plumbing,                                                               
pipefitting, and electrical trades.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  said HB 132 would  expand apprenticeships beyond                                                               
the building trades.  He related  that many Alaskans think of the                                                               
traditional construction trades  when they hear "apprenticeship."                                                               
But, he continued, in the US  and around the world there has been                                                               
tremendous  expansion of  apprenticeship  beyond the  traditional                                                               
building trades,  especially in the  last decade.   Expansion has                                                               
been  seen in  insurance,  financial services,  health care,  and                                                               
advanced manufacturing.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS explained that HB  132 would support expansion of                                                               
apprenticeships within traditional sectors  as well as strengthen                                                               
connections  between  Alaska's  career  and  technical  education                                                               
programs  with  school  districts  and  apprenticeship  programs.                                                               
More  graduating seniors  would  have career  options with  post-                                                               
secondary credentials, he said, and  more employers would have an                                                               
identified pipeline of skilled talent.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS further stated that  Alaska needs to keep working                                                               
to expand  dual credit programs  in which  apprenticeship program                                                               
participants  earn  college  credit   and  so  that  high  school                                                               
students in  non-apprenticeship career and  technical educational                                                               
programs have more  dual credit opportunities.   He stressed that                                                               
these  opportunities   are  particularly  important   for  socio-                                                               
economic  mobility, in  other words  for  graduating seniors  who                                                               
can't afford not  to work.  For too long  people have been forced                                                               
to make  an unfair choice    going to  work or getting  a degree.                                                               
With the marriage  of college and apprenticeship,  and career and                                                               
technical  education and  college credit,  Alaska's students  can                                                               
have both.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  noted that Representative McCarty  spoke to many                                                               
stakeholders  and  wrote HB  108,  which  is currently  contained                                                               
within HB 132.  He said  he would defer to Representative McCarty                                                               
on whether to keep these as  a comprehensive package or to pursue                                                               
HB  108 separately.   He  thanked  Representative McCarty,  along                                                               
with numerous  other individuals, state departments,  and federal                                                               
departments, for their help related to HB 132.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
7:54:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  turned to  a PowerPoint  presentation on  HB 132                                                               
titled  "Apprenticeship Expansion  Act."   He displayed  slide 2,                                                               
"Apprenticeship and CTE Background,"  and related that Alaska has                                                               
high-performing  apprenticeship programs  in traditional  trades,                                                               
and almost 800 employers participate  in Apprenticeships Day.  He                                                               
said there  has been exciting  innovation with  apprenticeship in                                                               
new industries,  which the  committee heard  about in  an earlier                                                               
informational  hearing  from  the Primary  Care  Association  and                                                               
others.    While  Alaska has  some  outstanding  school  district                                                               
programs,  they are  not  at  the scale  needed  to meet  student                                                               
demand.  He said a question to ask  is:  What can the state do to                                                               
support school  districts that have  an opportunity to  scale up?                                                               
Other  states and  nations  have shown  the  potential to  expand                                                               
skill apprenticeship  and career  and technical  education (CTE).                                                               
Alaska  can  learn   from  the  examples  set   by  nations  like                                                               
Switzerland and Germany and the  state of South Carolina, and the                                                               
apprenticeship tax  credit provided  in HB 132  is an  example of                                                               
trying  to  learn from  successful  models.   He  reiterated  his                                                               
previous  statement  that  expansion of  apprenticeship  and  CTE                                                               
would help  people pull  themselves up  by their  bootstraps when                                                               
they can't  afford not to  work in  college.  If  the legislature                                                               
puts  the right  policy framework  into place,  he added,  Alaska                                                               
would be  able to  capitalize on new  infusions of  federal grant                                                               
support for apprenticeship.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  proceeded  to slide  3,  "Incentivize  Employer                                                               
Participation."   He  specified that  HB 132  would establish  an                                                               
employer tax  credit of  $1,000 per apprentice,  a model  used by                                                               
South  Carolina  to  significantly  scale  up  apprenticeship  in                                                               
advanced manufacturing.   The bill as currently written  is a tax                                                               
credit for for-profit  companies, he pointed out.   A question is                                                               
whether  the  committee would  like  to  make this  a  refundable                                                               
credit so that it would also benefit non-profit employers.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  spoke  to slide  4,  "Depts.  Labor,  Education                                                               
Coordination."    He said  that  historically  the Department  of                                                               
Labor   and   Workforce   Development   (DOLWD)   has   supported                                                               
apprenticeship in  Alaska.   A question  is whether  that support                                                               
could  be broadened  with collaboration  from  the Department  of                                                               
Education and Early Development (DEED).   The bill's language, he                                                               
continued, does  envision strong collaboration between  DOLWD and                                                               
DEED, given the need to  expand school to apprenticeship programs                                                               
and to the  extent possible along more  dual credit opportunities                                                               
for CTE  programs including in "the  STEM fields."  He  noted the                                                               
bill's   language  is   general,   giving   the  department   the                                                               
flexibility to support school districts where it can.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  addressed slide 5,  "College Credit for  CTE and                                                               
Apprenticeship."   He  explained the  bill directs  the Board  of                                                               
Regents to  find ways to expand  dual credit for CTE  courses and                                                               
college  credit for  apprenticeship  participants.   He said  the                                                               
university  has made  positive steps  in this  direction already.                                                               
He reiterated  that HB  132 contains  the entirety  of HB  108 by                                                               
Representative McCarty.   He concluded  by stating that  the bill                                                               
is simple    a tax  credit, collaboration among  departments, and                                                               
dual credits with the university.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
7:58:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON requested  further  context regarding  the                                                               
statement  by  Co-Chair Fields  that  last  year the  legislature                                                               
helped expand partnership through the building trade.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS replied  that the legislature took  what had been                                                               
regulations around apprenticeships  in the plumbing, pipefitting,                                                               
and  electrical trades  and put  some  of those  into statute  to                                                               
strengthen the state's statutory support  for some of the skilled                                                               
building trade apprenticeships.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON asked if that also included a tax credit.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  responded that  it did not.   He  explained that                                                               
that is more in terms of occupational licensing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON  inquired whether there  is a reason  for a                                                               
tax credit being included in HB 132.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  answered that  HB 132 proposes  a tax  credit of                                                               
$1,000 per  student based on  the successful model seen  in South                                                               
Carolina scaling up apprenticeship.   To his knowledge, he added,                                                               
the  legislature  has not  contemplated  an  incentive like  this                                                               
before, so he wanted to put it on the table.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:00:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  HAKALA,  State  Director,   Office  of  Apprenticeship,  US                                                               
Department of Labor,  stated that he delivered  a presentation on                                                               
youth apprenticeship  on 2/24/21,  and his  comments today  are a                                                               
follow-up to that.  He said  he reviewed the 2/9/21 draft version                                                               
of the  bill and would like  to recommend two wording  changes to                                                               
"Section 1(12)" which  states, "provide educational opportunities                                                               
in  the areas  of vocational  education and  training, and  basic                                                               
education to individuals  over 16 years of age who  are no longer                                                               
attending school;  the department  may consult with  business and                                                               
labor  unions  to  develop  a program  to  prepare  students  for                                                               
apprenticeships  or  internships  that will  lead  to  employment                                                               
opportunities".  [In  the bill before the  committee, Version 32-                                                               
LS0476\B, this language  is found in Sec. 3(a)(12).]   Mr. Hakala                                                               
recommended that "career and technical  education" be added after                                                               
the  comma following  "vocational  education and  training".   He                                                               
explained  that for  youth  apprenticeship, a  look  is taken  at                                                               
career  and technical  education credit  for on-the-job  learning                                                               
and the related technical instruction.   Since there is an Alaska                                                               
career and  technical education plan,  he continued, it  would be                                                               
nice to have that reference included.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAKALA,  regarding the above  language, further  advised that                                                               
using the  term "internships" would introduce  confusion into the                                                               
intent of the bill.   He therefore recommended that "internships"                                                               
be  replaced  with   "pre-apprenticeships"  because  internships,                                                               
work-based  learning, on-the-job  training, and  CTE high  school                                                               
program preparatory  training all fall  under pre-apprenticeships                                                               
for purposes of  the House bill.  He also  noted that the current                                                               
federal  apprenticeship   regulations,  as  well  as   the  draft                                                               
National Apprenticeship  Act for 2021, only  reference registered                                                               
apprenticeship,  youth  apprenticeship,  and  pre-apprenticeship.                                                               
[Thus, as  per Mr. Hakala's recommendations,  this language would                                                               
read:  "provide   educational  opportunities  in  the   areas  of                                                               
vocational   education  and   training,   career  and   technical                                                               
education, and  basic education to  individuals over 16  years of                                                               
age  who  are no  longer  attending  school; the  department  may                                                               
consult with  business and labor  unions to develop a  program to                                                               
prepare students for  apprenticeships or pre-apprenticeships that                                                               
will lead to employment opportunities".]                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:03:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAKALA  addressed "Sec.  3" [in the  2/9/21 draft  version of                                                               
the bill] which  states that AS 43.20 is amended  by adding a new                                                               
section  to read:  "To  qualify as  a  registered apprentice  for                                                               
purposes  of  the  credit  under  this  section,  a  person  must                                                               
participate in a registered  apprenticeship program recognized by                                                               
the  Department of  Labor and  Workforce Development."   [In  the                                                               
bill before the committee, Version  32-LS0476\B, this language is                                                               
found in Sec. 9 (b).].  He pointed  out that his office is the US                                                               
Department of  Labor Office of  Apprenticeship, which  has always                                                               
been the  registration agency for  apprenticeship in Alaska.   He                                                               
advised that the  registration agency should be  included in this                                                               
section to avoid confusion about  the roles and responsibility of                                                               
the state  and federal apprenticeship  partnership.   The revised                                                               
wording,  he  continued,  needs  to reflect  how  the  state  and                                                               
federal  apprenticeship  partnership   has  functioned  over  the                                                               
years.   Mr. Hakala  therefore recommended  that the  language be                                                               
revised  to  read  as  follows:   "To  qualify  as  a  registered                                                               
apprentice  for purposes  of  the credit  under  this section,  a                                                               
person must  participate in  a registered  apprenticeship program                                                               
registered   with  the   US  Department   of   Labor  Office   of                                                               
Apprenticeship,  and recognized  by the  Department of  Labor and                                                               
Workforce Development."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:05:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ said Mr.  Hakala's recommendations are helpful                                                               
and requested that he submit  the specific language to ensure the                                                               
committee  gets  it right.    She  related  that one  reason  the                                                               
committee  wanted  to introduce  this  bill  was  to set  up  the                                                               
infrastructure that would allow [the  state] to take advantage of                                                               
forthcoming federal changes in apprenticeship that are expected.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:05:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN inquired  about the functional differences                                                               
in  definition  between apprenticeship,  pre-apprenticeship,  and                                                               
internship.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAKALA replied  that the  registered  apprenticeship is  the                                                               
outcome that a lot of the  preparatory programs are hoping for or                                                               
training towards.  Depending on  their design, he explained, they                                                               
might   have  a   very  tight   connection   to  training   their                                                               
participants to  have advanced standing  or direct entry  into an                                                               
apprenticeship,  where  others  may not.    Work-based  learning,                                                               
internships, on-the-job training, and  preparatory training are a                                                               
component  of   registered  apprenticeship,  he   continued,  but                                                               
registered apprenticeship  is broader and more  structured.  They                                                               
are  components   of  the  apprenticeship,   but  they   are  not                                                               
apprenticeship  themselves,   whereas  registered  apprenticeship                                                               
contains probably all the components of any one of those work-                                                                  
based  learning  models,  but  the  reverse  is  not  true.    He                                                               
specified   that  HB   132  is   specifically  about   registered                                                               
apprenticeship,  so  career  and  technical  education,  all  the                                                               
preparatory training,  pre-apprenticeships, and  such, are  not a                                                               
full apprenticeship program.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  asked whether there  is a place  where he                                                               
can see the definitions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAKALA responded  that he would provide  Co-Chair Fields with                                                               
the definitions to share with the committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:07:58 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  related  that  the internships  she  had  in                                                               
college and high school didn't  have specific concrete benchmarks                                                               
that  she had  to  achieve, whereas  an  apprenticeship has  very                                                               
specific things that  must be learned in order to  move on to the                                                               
next  level.    Internships  are more  general,  she  added,  and                                                               
apprenticeships are more specific                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:07:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRAD AUSTIN, Training Coordinator  & Instructor, Local Union 262,                                                               
Plumbers and Pipefitters, stated that  his union has a school-to-                                                               
apprenticeship program  with the Juneau-Douglas High  School.  He                                                               
explained that his union's program  requires the students to take                                                               
certain classes while in high school.   Then at 17 the student is                                                               
placed  with  a  contractor,  and   while  the  student  probably                                                               
wouldn't work with  heavy tools it gives the student  a chance to                                                               
be around  the trade and  work with some  of the plumbers.   Upon                                                               
receiving a high  school diploma or GED, the  student is eligible                                                               
to directly enter the union's apprenticeship program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. AUSTIN pointed out that "direct  entry" is a big deal because                                                               
the normal course  for getting into an  apprenticeship program is                                                               
to  file an  application with  the training  committee, which  in                                                               
Local  Union 262's  case  only happens  once a  year.   Then  the                                                               
applicant  must  sit for  an  interview  with his  union's  joint                                                               
apprenticeship  training committee  of six  people, which  can be                                                               
intimidating.    In addition,  the  applicant  is competing  with                                                               
however  many  people  are coming  in  through  that  application                                                               
process.   The school-to-apprenticeship  candidate with  a direct                                                               
entry into  the program bypasses  all of that and  comes directly                                                               
into the program.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. AUSTIN further pointed out  that Local Union 262's school-to-                                                               
apprenticeship  agreement also  offers credit  hours towards  the                                                               
apprenticeship program.  An apprentice  in his union's program or                                                               
the Anchorage  or Fairbanks programs,  he continued, is  going to                                                               
serve 10,000  hours over five  years.  Local Union  262's school-                                                               
to-apprenticeship  agreement offers  up to  500 hours  of credit,                                                               
which put  into monetary  terms is  a raise of  $2 an  hour after                                                               
three months rather than six months.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  AUSTIN said  the  partners  in the  school-to-apprenticeship                                                               
program are  the school and the  sponsoring agency.  In  the case                                                               
of Local Union 262, he related,  the union meets with the student                                                               
and the parent or guardian so  that everybody is informed.  There                                                               
is no cost to the student or school, a win-win situation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. AUSTIN  stated that HB  132 would help with  several problems                                                               
that  his union  has encountered.    The bill  would promote  and                                                               
incentivize vocation  education and CTE classes,  taking them off                                                               
the dusty  shelf in the  counselor's office and putting  them out                                                               
front.  These  are great careers for people who  choose not to go                                                               
to  college, he  said.   For example,  an apprentice  serving the                                                               
five years in  Local Union 262's program will  have made $281,000                                                               
in wages,  and when the  benefit package  is added in  the amount                                                               
comes  to  $524,000.    These  are  good,  high-paying  jobs,  he                                                               
continued, and  the school-to-apprenticeship  program is  a great                                                               
conduit for an  easy entry into one  of them.  He  noted that the                                                               
school-to-apprentice program at Local  367 in Fairbanks currently                                                               
has 14 candidates and works  with six schools because its program                                                               
is signed with the Fairbanks North Star Borough.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:15:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  urged committee members to  visit Local 262's                                                               
training school,  something that she  did and where she  was able                                                               
to do some welding.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:15:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  thanked Mr. Austin for  his testimony and                                                               
for the  tour he provided  at the facility  last week.   He asked                                                               
how  many  apprenticeship  opportunities  exist  at  the  Juneau-                                                               
Douglas High  School, what percentage  of students  are involved,                                                               
and what other programs are offered.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. AUSTIN  replied that there  are three programs in  Alaska for                                                               
union  apprenticeships   for  plumbers  and  pipefitters.     For                                                               
independent contractors  he knows  of three  independent plumbing                                                               
apprenticeships in  Juneau alone.   He said there are  probably a                                                               
lot  more  independent  contractor apprenticeship  programs  than                                                               
union.  He deferred to Mr. Hakala for providing exact numbers.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:18:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARI SELLE, Director, Workforce  Development, Alaska Primary Care                                                               
Association (APCA), South Central  Alaska Health Education Center                                                               
(SCAHEC), testified  in support of  HB 132.   She stated  that HB
132 has  the potential to  open doors  for youth to  enter health                                                               
and human  services careers.  She  said APCA is a  nonprofit that                                                               
supports community health  centers, and its mission  is to create                                                               
healthy communities by supporting  community health centers.  One                                                               
way  that  APCA  does  this,  she  continued,  is  by  supporting                                                               
workforce development activities.  She  noted that many of APCA's                                                               
clinics and health facilities are in remote locations.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SELLE related  that APCA has been a  multi-agency sponsor for                                                               
registered  apprenticeships  since  2017.    She  recognized  the                                                               
Alaska Department of Labor and  Workforce Development for growing                                                               
health  care  apprenticeships  in  Alaska  through  the  American                                                               
Apprenticeship Initiative and  the State Apprenticeship Expansion                                                               
Grant.   She explained that  a multi-agency sponsor works  with a                                                               
variety  of  health care  employers,  many  of which  are  APCA's                                                               
community  health centers,  and APCA  manages the  apprenticeship                                                               
program  for  these  employers.    The  association  teaches  the                                                               
didactic education,  and the employers provide  the on-the-skills                                                               
job training, while APCA monitors  and tracks all the apprentices                                                               
so the  employer's only  worry is  employing that  apprentice and                                                               
providing the apprentice with mentorship.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SELLE said APCA has  registered apprenticeships for a variety                                                               
of health care fields, mostly at  the entry level.  Recently APCA                                                               
added  a   human  services  apprenticeship  for   direct  support                                                               
professionals, which  are individuals  who work with  people that                                                               
experience a  disability.  This  fall, she continued,  APCA plans                                                               
to launch  a pharmacy  tech apprenticeship.   She  specified that                                                               
about  one-fourth of  APCA's apprentices  are  youth, defined  as                                                               
ages 18-24,  and that  teens younger  than 18  can't work  in the                                                               
health  care   industry.    To   increase  the   availability  of                                                               
apprenticeships  for  youth,  she  continued,  APCA  is  actively                                                               
working with  Alaska Work Partnership  on a  youth apprenticeship                                                               
grant  as  well  as  working with  several  school  districts  to                                                               
connect their CTE programs with APCA's apprenticeship programs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SELLE stated  that lots  of energy  is currently  going into                                                               
creating  apprenticeship  opportunities  for youth,  and  HB  132                                                               
would fuel this  fire that is already starting to  burn.  This is                                                               
an  excellent  apprenticeship model  that  works  well for  entry                                                               
level health  care jobs,  she said.   This is  because facilities                                                               
are already having to recruit,  mentor, and train staff for entry                                                               
level jobs;  out of  necessity facilities  must hire  someone who                                                               
doesn't have the experience and  train them.  This apprenticeship                                                               
model can  provide that missing  piece, she  continued.  It  is a                                                               
formal education in a structured way  for a young person to learn                                                               
the  needed skills  and have  multiple mentors  through both  the                                                               
APCA  and the  employer.   These are  great jobs,  especially for                                                               
youth and  those without experience,  she added, as they  can get                                                               
started, get  certification, and  get on  a genuine  career track                                                               
without incurring debt.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:23:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SELLE stressed  her support  for the  proposed legislation's                                                               
structure  that enables  apprentices to  earn dual  credit.   She                                                               
said APCA has a partnership  with Alaska Pacific University (APU)                                                               
where   the  apprentices   can   earn  college   credit  and   an                                                               
undergraduate  certificate through  their  apprenticeship.   Upon                                                               
completion   of    their   apprenticeship    that   undergraduate                                                               
certificate  can   pull  through   to  an  associate   degree  or                                                               
bachelor's degree, and the apprentice  can get on a career ladder                                                               
to go into nursing, or public  health, or even business or social                                                               
work  depending on  what the  apprentice  is interested  in.   As                                                               
well,  Ms.  Selle  continued, apprentices  are  earning  national                                                               
certification  through  the  federal  Office  of  Apprenticeship.                                                               
Many of  APCA's programs, she  added, are well suited  for youth,                                                               
especially  those  youth who  are  on  a  career track  versus  a                                                               
college   track.     The   Direct   Support  Professional   (DSP)                                                               
Apprenticeship,  for  example, would  be  wonderful  for a  young                                                               
person.  These  apprenticeships give youth a  well-lit path right                                                               
out  of  high  school,  while  also  earning  college  credit  if                                                               
desired.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. SELLE  concluded her testimony  by noting that  one challenge                                                               
is convincing employers to take  on apprenticeships.  She said HB
132 would provide  a financial incentive to  employers that would                                                               
help offset the  risks that employers are taking.   She expressed                                                               
her support  for including  the nonprofit sector  in HB  132, and                                                               
pointed out  that 90  percent of  the employers  participating in                                                               
APCA's apprenticeships are nonprofits.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:25:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON requested Ms.  Selle to elaborate about the                                                               
risks that employers are taking regarding apprenticeship.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SELLE  replied that  health care tends  to be  an environment                                                               
where there  are high stakes safety  and regulatory requirements.                                                               
In  this  environment,  she  continued,  health  care  facilities                                                               
aren't necessarily keen to jump into  a new training model.  Even                                                               
though apprenticeship  is not new, it  is new to health  care and                                                               
human service  employers in Alaska.   So, there is risk  for them                                                               
to invest the time and energy  into trying this and taking on new                                                               
inexperienced staff,  and she therefore thinks  that an incentive                                                               
would be helpful.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON offered  his understanding  the risks  Ms.                                                               
Selle is  referring to are  the time  and effort that  a business                                                               
would be  putting into the  apprenticeship program, not  risks to                                                               
patients or administrative tasks.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SELLE  responded correct  and  clarified  that she  was  not                                                               
talking about risks to patients.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:27:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY asked whether a  person must be 18 or over                                                               
to participate in APCA's program.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SELLE answered correct.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  stated he  would call that  "young adult"                                                               
rather  than  "youth" given  youth  is  generally categorized  as                                                               
teenagers.  He  requested Ms. Selle to  provide APCA's definition                                                               
of youth.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SELLE replied that APCA  works with the [Workforce Innovation                                                               
&  Opportunity   Act]  WIOA  Program   which  defines   youth  as                                                               
individuals  between the  ages  of  14 and  24,  so  that is  the                                                               
framework  APCA   has  been  using.     She  said   APCA's  youth                                                               
apprenticeship program and youth  apprenticeship efforts focus on                                                               
individuals who are 18-24 and APCA calls them youth.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KYLE KAISER,  Electrical Entry Program, Membership  & Development                                                               
Lead,  Local   1547,  International  Brotherhood   of  Electrical                                                               
Workers   (IBEW),  President   &  Founder,   Veteran  Internships                                                               
Providing Employment  Readiness (VIPER), testified in  support of                                                               
HB  132.   He thanked  the committee  for discussing  the various                                                               
programs  today.     He  pointed   out  that  missing   from  the                                                               
discussions was apprenticeships as  a tie-in for veterans getting                                                               
out of the military.  He said  he heard the terms youth and young                                                               
adult, but not  military even though current  and former military                                                               
members  comprise a  good  portion of  Alaska's  population.   He                                                               
reported that  each year  200,000 veterans  on average  leave the                                                               
military, and 150,000  of them are unemployed and  have no career                                                               
path when they get out.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KAISER  related that  VIPER's mission is  to bridge  that gap                                                               
between  military and  civilian  employment, and  apprenticeships                                                               
are an excellent way  to do that.  He said  he participated in an                                                               
apprenticeship when  he left the  military.  He stressed  that an                                                               
apprenticeship offers  hope.  A  person transitioning out  of the                                                               
military, he  explained, doesn't  have many  transferable skills.                                                               
For example,  he was  an airborne  infantry sniper,  which didn't                                                               
give him  much to  translate to.   Even  someone in  the military                                                               
medical  field won't  have skills  that transfer,  he added.   An                                                               
apprenticeship fixes many of those  issues because the individual                                                               
will learn everything needed for his or her next career.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. KAISER emphasized his support  for expanding efforts to bring                                                               
people  into  apprenticeships.   He  offered  his agreement  with                                                               
providing  incentives and  suggested that  the state  also inform                                                               
employers  about  the  federal incentives  for  hiring  veterans,                                                               
which is something that isn't well known or talked about.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KAISER stated  that  apprenticeship and  how  it relates  to                                                               
veterans is  much more than  just a job.   It could very  well be                                                               
saving someone's  life, he said.   Giving someone hope in  his or                                                               
her next career and a  direction for moving forward is invaluable                                                               
"when   the   demons  start   crawling   out   of  the   closet."                                                               
Apprenticeships  would be  a great  thing for  his children  when                                                               
they  grow up,  he continued,  but he  still wants  to make  sure                                                               
there  is  support for  the  men  and  women  coming out  of  the                                                               
military and looking for their  next careers, and apprenticeships                                                               
could be the answer for doing that.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. KAISER  said it doesn't  matter whether something  is defined                                                               
as an  apprenticeship, pre-apprenticeship, or internship  so long                                                               
as it  is a progression  into a career.   For example,  he noted,                                                               
VIPER  is  launching  an  aviation  maintenance  program  in  May                                                               
[2021].  It  will provide 12 weeks of general  aviation and after                                                               
that the individual  can choose to go to accredited  school or go                                                               
to work for an employer that  has an internal apprenticeship.  He                                                               
stated that  HB 132 will help  get more programs like  that going                                                               
with employers and will open more opportunities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:33:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON  complimented the VIPER program.   He asked                                                               
whether the federal incentives for  apprenticeships were only for                                                               
former military members or also included others.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KAISER replied  that he  was  referring to  the federal  tax                                                               
incentives for the employment of  veterans, and that if the state                                                               
notifies   employers  of   state  incentives   for  creating   an                                                               
apprenticeship program it should also  notify them of the federal                                                               
incentives for veterans.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:34:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  LIBBY,  Director,  Center   of  Strategic  Partnership  and                                                               
Research  (CaSPR),   Director,  Applied   Environmental  Research                                                               
Center (AERC),  University of Alaska Anchorage  (UAA), noted that                                                               
he previously served as the  Associate Dean for the Community and                                                               
Technical College at UAA.   He thanked the co-chairs for inviting                                                               
him  to  provide  testimony  on   HB  132,  which  would  promote                                                               
apprenticeship  opportunities in  Alaska.   He  said  he is  here                                                               
today to  tell members  about the work  the University  of Alaska                                                               
Anchorage has been doing to  support this national initiative for                                                               
workforce development and  helping to put Alaskans  back to work,                                                               
especially after the pandemic.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIBBY specified that both  the University of Alaska Anchorage                                                               
and  University   of  Alaska  Fairbanks  have   associate  degree                                                               
programs  that  provide  avenues   for  anyone  who  completed  a                                                               
registered   apprenticeship   to   transfer   related   technical                                                               
instruction from  his or her  apprenticeship into  college credit                                                               
within  the  University  of  Alaska  system.    For  example,  he                                                               
explained, an individual  completing an 8,000-hour apprenticeship                                                               
can transfer  his or her completed  apprenticeship training hours                                                               
and have that qualify for up  to 38 university or college credits                                                               
toward  an   Associate  of  Applied   Science  (AAS)   degree  in                                                               
apprenticeship technologies at either UAA  or UAF.  The remaining                                                               
credits to complete these associate  degrees can be completed 100                                                               
percent through  distance delivery  classes.   The best  part, he                                                               
continued,  is that  these  degrees  are part  of  what has  been                                                               
traditionally  known as  a "two-plus-two-degree  program."   This                                                               
means that  all previously awarded  college credits  and training                                                               
hours for an individual's apprenticeship  can be transferred into                                                               
a bachelor's  degree in Applied  Leadership at the  University of                                                               
Alaska Anchorage.  This degree  can also be completed 100 percent                                                               
online,  which  allows  anyone  in Alaska  who  has  completed  a                                                               
registered   apprenticeship  an   opportunity   to  complete   an                                                               
associate  degree and  a bachelor's  degree  regardless of  where                                                               
they live in the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIBBY  provided a brief  history.   He related that  this was                                                               
originally  started with  UAA's Community  and Technical  College                                                               
that partnered  with a local  auto group in Anchorage  to develop                                                               
the  first  apprenticeship  for  automotive  service  and  repair                                                               
technicians.   It was anticipated  that existing students  in the                                                               
college's  automotive technology  program  would  enroll in  this                                                               
opportunity, which they  did.  But, not  expected, was enrollment                                                               
by employees from the organization  into UAA's program because of                                                               
the opportunity  it provided  for their career  growth.   As word                                                               
spread through the  program's advisory board, he  said, other car                                                               
dealerships  and   independent  service  and   repair  facilities                                                               
throughout  Alaska wanted  to be  a part  of this  apprenticeship                                                               
opportunity.    So,  UAA  applied  to  be  a  sponsor  for  multi                                                               
occupational  apprenticeships with  the US  Department of  Labor.                                                               
This sponsorship allows UAA to  send students to any employer and                                                               
the university system provides  the related technical instruction                                                               
for the employer, and it can be in any occupation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LIBBY  stated  that  after  becoming  a  sponsor  for  multi                                                               
occupational  apprenticeships,   UAA  decided  to   transfer  the                                                               
sponsorship  from  the Community  and  Technical  College to  the                                                               
Center of  Strategic Partnership  and Research, which  lies under                                                               
the  Business Enterprise  Institute.   This allows  for expansion                                                               
across the  colleges and the  entire University of  Alaska system                                                               
to identify  other opportunities for apprenticeship  to help fill                                                               
our workforce gaps.  He said  UAA has been collaborating with the                                                               
American  Association  for  Community Colleges  and  was  awarded                                                               
external funding  to support apprentices  in Alaska  and increase                                                               
these  opportunities.   Today  UAA  is  working with  the  Alaska                                                               
Department of  Labor and Workforce  Development in  this national                                                               
initiative for  expanding community college  apprenticeships that                                                               
is  sponsored by  the US  Department  of Labor  and the  American                                                               
Association  for Community  Colleges.   Currently, more  than 300                                                               
universities and colleges are participating in this initiative.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LIBBY  opined  that  the term  apprenticeship  is  not  well                                                               
defined.   When the term apprenticeship  is used, he said,  it is                                                               
often associated  with traditional  skills and  technical trades,                                                               
but today almost half of  the nation's apprentices are working in                                                               
the  health care  industry.   He related  that UAA  has partnered                                                               
with  the Alaska  Primary Care  Association and  is working  with                                                               
UAA's College  of Health  to continue  to expand  this initiative                                                               
and help  put Alaskans to work.   Also, he noted,  the university                                                               
has  developed an  apprenticeship program  for diesel  mechanics,                                                               
and  some of  the  related technical  instruction  is offered  as                                                               
articulated credit  and dual enrollment for  high school students                                                               
throughout  the  state to  help  jumpstart  careers.   Mr.  Libby                                                               
further noted that UAA is  currently developing an apprenticeship                                                               
in research for both graduate  and undergraduate students to work                                                               
in  fields related  to climate  change,  fisheries research,  and                                                               
other wildlife and environmental fields.   This will be the first                                                               
of its  kind, he said, and  several universities in the  Lower 48                                                               
are interested  in modeling the  platform being designed  by UAA.                                                               
It will help University of  Alaska students across the board gain                                                               
field and hands-on experience in research.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:39:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  asked  whether  there are  kids  in  the                                                               
middle college who are doing the program at UAA.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIBBY replied that a  couple initiatives are underway at this                                                               
point, one  of them being  information technology (IT).   He said                                                               
dual enrollment  opportunities for  high school students  are the                                                               
big  thing  offered  by  the  university.    At  this  point,  he                                                               
continued,  the  university  doesn't have  anything  with  middle                                                               
school,  middle   college,  opportunities,  which  has   been  an                                                               
initiative for  a while.  He  pointed out that students  who want                                                               
to participate in apprenticeship  could get articulated credit or                                                               
dual  enrollment  credits  at  the high  school  level  and  then                                                               
transfer in to expedite their careers in Alaska's economy.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY inquired  whether  dual enrollment  means                                                               
high school credit plus college credit.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIBBY answered  that those students taking a  course that has                                                               
articulated credit or that is  qualified as dual enrollment would                                                               
be  receiving college  credit  at  the high  school  level.   For                                                               
example,  UA's   automotive,  diesel,  computer   networking  and                                                               
systems  technology,   and  several   other  programs   all  have                                                               
articulated,  or dual  enrollment,  courses offered  at the  high                                                               
school level, so  students are gaining college  credit while they                                                               
are at the high school level.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:41:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  commented  that most  committee  members                                                               
probably agree  that apprenticeship  programs and  vocational and                                                               
technical  training is  good.    He observed  that  the bill  has                                                               
requirements for schools  as well as other  requirements, yet the                                                               
fiscal note is zero.  He said cost  is a big question for him, so                                                               
he  would like  to  hear more  about the  cost  as the  committee                                                               
discusses the bill further.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS responded  that DOLWD  has a  strong network  of                                                               
apprenticeship specialists.   He  said the bill  language directs                                                               
DEED  to   collaborate  with  DOLWD,   and  he  would   defer  to                                                               
Commissioner Johnson (of  DEED) to explain how  he would envision                                                               
implementing that  and obviously it  might change.   He explained                                                               
that the  resources the  state would be  taking advantage  of are                                                               
federal  resources.    Co-Chair  Fields recounted  that  when  he                                                               
worked  at DOLWD  he applied  for federal  grants in  partnership                                                               
with many  great people,  and they were  lucky enough  to receive                                                               
them  and  it helped  jumpstart  programs  like  APCA.   He  said                                                               
[DOLWD] sort of  positioned itself to benefit  from federal funds                                                               
and  the opportunity  today  is to  build  on past  achievements.                                                               
Regarding  the state's  history  on  apprenticeships, he  related                                                               
that  much of  the  foundational  work goes  back  to when  Click                                                               
Bishop  was  the  DOLWD  commissioner   and  Governor  Palin  was                                                               
governor.  While  at DOLWD, he continued, he  felt the department                                                               
was  building on  what  they  did then,  and  the investment  and                                                               
support   for    apprenticeship   has   continued    under   this                                                               
administration.  He  said HB 132 looks at what  is next, which is                                                               
these  linkages  with  schools and  the  connections  to  college                                                               
credit.  There is more federal  money coming down the line and if                                                               
there  is collaboration  with  DEED  and collaboration  continues                                                               
with the university, [the state]  will be very well positioned to                                                               
capitalize  on  that.    Co-Chair  Fields  further  related  that                                                               
district  level CTE  coordinators  have said  the districts  need                                                               
people to make connections with  employers so that there are more                                                               
school-to-apprenticeship  programs  for  existing  apprenticeship                                                               
sponsors and  for employers  that are  looking for  workforce but                                                               
don't yet  have an apprenticeship  program, and he would  like to                                                               
see federal  dollars support this.   He agreed that  paying those                                                               
folks would absolutely  take money and said that would  be a role                                                               
that  federal money  could play.   He  concluded by  stating that                                                               
DOLWD  already  has good  infrastructure  and  the department  of                                                               
labor at the federal level  already has good infrastructure, [and                                                               
HB 132  would] increase coordination  with DEED to  position [the                                                               
state] to capitalize on federal grants.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  suggested this be  taken up further  when the                                                               
committee hears the bill again later this week.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY recalled  Co-Chair Fields  asking whether                                                               
HB 108 should stay part of HB  132 and said that 75-80 percent of                                                               
HB 108  is in HB 132.   He noted today's  testimony was primarily                                                               
about people  older than 18.   But, he  continued, HB 108  is for                                                               
high school  students to  get into the  trades and  be recognized                                                               
that they have certifications to  make them employable right away                                                               
and more viable  to the workforce within a short  period of time.                                                               
He said  he therefore desires that  all the language from  HB 108                                                               
be removed from HB 132.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ stated  she thinks  part of  that is  because                                                               
most of today's testifiers were  talking about existing programs.                                                               
She concurred it  is a fair point that the  committee didn't hear                                                               
very much  today about high  school level apprenticeship  or pre-                                                               
apprenticeship.  She said the  concerns of Representative McCarty                                                               
would be taken  up when the committee again hears  the bill.  She                                                               
further  surmised  that  Co-Chair  Fields would  follow  up  with                                                               
Representative McCarty as well.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced that HB 132 was held over.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 132 v. B 3.10.21.PDF HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 132
HB 45 Amendment #1.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 Sectional Analysis 2.24.21.pdf HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 Sponsor Statement 2.24.21.pdf HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 Version A.PDF HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 Presentation 3.2.21.pdf HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 Fiscal Note DOLWD-WC 1.22.21.pdf HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 - testimony received as of 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 background document- Division of Workers' Compensation- Effects of Covid 3.3.21.pdf HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 background document- Division of Workers' Compenstion- COVID-19 WC Year End Report Final 3.3.21.pdf HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 background document- NCCI- AK HB 45 Analysis 3.3.21.pdf HL&C 3/5/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 45 supporting document - research, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45
HB 100 v. A.PDF HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 supporting document - UA presentation.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 letters of support, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 supporting document - DOL AWIB Flow Chart.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 supporting document -TVEP Annual Report FY20.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 supporting document - UA Results Overview.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 FN - DOLWD-WIB, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 FN - DEED, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 FN - DOLWD-WD, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 FN - DOLWD-UI, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 100
HB 132 FN DOR, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 132
HB 132 FN DOLWD-WH, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 132
HB 132 FN DOLWD-WIB, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 132
HB 100 presentation, 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB 132 Sectional Analysis v. B 3.12.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 132
HB 132 Sponsor Statement 3.12.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
SEDC 3/11/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 PowerPoint 3.12.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 132
HB 132 Letter of Support - ASHNA 3.11.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
SEDC 3/11/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Letter of Support - Matsu Borough School District 2.24.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
SEDC 3/11/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 100 UA Presentation 3.15.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HL&C 3/17/2021 5:45:00 PM
SFIN 5/3/2021 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 5/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 Bill Presentation 3.15.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HL&C 3/17/2021 5:45:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 Supporting Document - FY22 Proposed Distribution 3.15.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HL&C 3/17/2021 5:45:00 PM
HB 100
HB 45 responses to House Labor and Commerce committee questions 3.15.21.pdf HL&C 3/15/2021 6:30:00 PM
HB 45